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want you to keep in mind that I'm still in the process of changing, I'm going to share with you my viewpoint today, I may change it in 2 weeks or in 2 years, I don't know...I'm just not sure I've yet fully worked out a scenario that I can live with long term. But here are my best thoughts on the subject...From time to time we will have a valid experience with an invalid label. At this time my perception is that that is what has occurred with the issue of the
of the Holy Spirit...At this point in time I have come full circle from an evangelical theology of filling of the Spirit, through an experience and a theology that embraced what we would call classic Pentecostal...now I've come back to a place where I think I started theologically, but I've added a dimension of experience.
John Wimber quotes
with water is the sign and seal of
with the Spirit, as much as it is of the forgiveness of sins. Water-
is the initiatory Christian rite, because Spirit-
is the initiatory Christian experience.
John Stott quotes
my god, I mean who the fuck scheduled that!? It was like the most evil thing. I'm like, 'Hi nice to meet you Simon,' then the direction is, 'OK, you sit on him naked and bounce.' That was some
of fire. But hell, it's been a good shoot, so maybe sex is a good way to start!
Alice Eve quotes
is, in fact, much more than a ritual conferring membership in a community, as many people conceive it nowadays. It is a process of birth, through which a new dimension of life opens out.
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ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by
into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection. -Romans 6:3-5
justification from sins takes place at the point of saving faith, not at the point of water
, which usually occurs later. But if a person is already justified and has sins forgiven eternally at the point of saving faith, then
is not necessary for forgiveness of sins nor for the bestowal of new spiritual life.
, then, is not necessary for salvation. But it is necessary if we are to be obedient to Christ, for he commanded
for all who believe in him.
Wayne A Grudem quotes
is rich in meaning. It suggests cleansing. When you are a disciple, you understand that you are cleansed by Christ. You understand that Christ died in your place on the cross, paying for your sins, fully forgiving you for all your wrongs. You are cleansed from guilt, and you are becoming a cleaner, healthier, more whole person.
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deny that in a child after
sin remains is to treat with contempt both Paul and Christ.
Pope Leo X quotes
funeral is not death, any more than
is birth or marriage union. All three are the clumsy devices, coming now too late, now too early, by which Society would register the quick motions of man.
E M Forster quotes
has always been a compound act absorbing cultural patterns into itself: it has taken on definite shape in various cultures, shaping those cultures in turn.
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