We did Papercut in three days on our own budget. The whole record is really, really personal, it has a lot of eerie dark overtones. On the new record we got to work with producers for the first time Patrick Stumph from FOB produced a few tracks we wanted to show we were out of that. Were happier with where we are as humans and we wanted that to shine in the record: we wanted to make a summertime record. I feel like we accomplished that.